Posts by William Penwell

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Accidental Posting of 2015 Release on JW.ORG

by rosesinbloom in

a couple of weeks ago someone posted that jw.org accidentally posted the 2015 regional convention release.

i can not fine the thread now.. i saw a picture of it yesterday.

a sister had downloaded the pdf and read it that night.. it is a 16-page brochure entitled "return to jehovah", with a purple background.. it has been designed specifically for inactive ones are those who have been raised around the truth but never baptized.

William Penwell

I have not heard of this brochure being accidentally released but I think was this deliberate? I have learned that things like this sometimes are planned.

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Apostasy Trial on YouTube - Undercover spycam part 1

by RayPublisher in

for only the second time in internet history, a video recording of a secret jehovah's witness apostasy trial has been published online on the jwstruggle youtube channel.

follow isaac's story here:.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=se9rh6qux0o&feature=youtu.be.

William Penwell

So some of the Elders are "evidently/apparently/no doubt" imperfect. So I or family members should take all of our problems and deepest darkest secrets to these "trusted" imperfect men? Really?

There qualifications are what? Since when is a janitor, painter or carpenter qualified to counsel a person? They have no formal training in grief counseling. A person could be suicidal yet their advise would be to read the bible or WT publications more.

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LATEST NEWS: CANDANCE CONTI VERIDICT READY - WT LOST!!!!!!!

by Viva la Vida in

jw
friends

i'm not an expert but that is my understanding of this: .

opinion filed.. (signed published) the judgment against defendants on the negligence count is affirmed.

the judgment against watchtower on the cause of action for punitive damages is reversed with directions to enter judgment for watchtower on punitive damages.

William Penwell

Brothers & Sisters........
If you are a congregation publisher can you explain to Jehovah why you are not an auxiliary pioneer?
If you are an auxiliary pioneer can you justify to Jehovah why you are not a full time pioneer?
Are you giving Jehovah (Watchtower) your all brothers?
Are you holding back from serving Jehovah (Watchtower) whole souled?

Yes nothing was ever good enough or this cult. You did 10 hours then you can do 20 hours. If you did 20 hours then you can do 30 hours etc. They always put you down it took me years to build up my self esteem after I left that cult.

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Thinking of Becoming One of Jehovah's Witnesses?

by The Searcher in

if you become one of jehovah's witnesses, here are five points which will not be driven home to you until after you have been baptized as "one of jw's":.

1) you will be required to commit as much of your time and financial resources as you are able - to further the aims & acquisitions of the billion dollar corporation known as the wtbts/ccojw - namely, to recruit new members and to increase their worldwide real estate empire.. 2) you will be required to terminate "worldly" association with former friends.. 3) you will be "expected" to attend each and every meeting, assembly, convention, and kh televised broadcasts which are arranged by the self-proclaimed "governing body" (g.b.

) in brooklyn, n.y.. 4) you will be required to blindly accept any decisions/directions issuing forth from the g.b., even if you disagree with it.

William Penwell

Yes I recall when I was first married and had doubts and questions the elders and my ex's response was I had to have faith and pray more. There is no room for questioning the GB once they have their claws in you. This is a double standard for them as when they are studying with you they will tell you it is OK to questions everything and examine your beliefs but they don't tell you that is not allowed once your in.

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LATEST NEWS: CANDANCE CONTI VERIDICT READY - WT LOST!!!!!!!

by Viva la Vida in

jw
friends

i'm not an expert but that is my understanding of this: .

opinion filed.. (signed published) the judgment against defendants on the negligence count is affirmed.

the judgment against watchtower on the cause of action for punitive damages is reversed with directions to enter judgment for watchtower on punitive damages.

William Penwell

You know in the end the big corporations like the Witchtower always win as they have the money and resources to drag this thing out forever. Hopefully a precedents has being set. Like someone else mentioned it sounded like a win lose on both sides.

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LATEST NEWS: CANDANCE CONTI VERIDICT READY - WT LOST!!!!!!!

by Viva la Vida in

jw
friends

i'm not an expert but that is my understanding of this: .

opinion filed.. (signed published) the judgment against defendants on the negligence count is affirmed.

the judgment against watchtower on the cause of action for punitive damages is reversed with directions to enter judgment for watchtower on punitive damages.

William Penwell

The only thing I am afraid of is like someone else stated, they will put a gag order on Conti and her lawyers, which will weaken any future liable cases against the cult.

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Biggest SCAM in the history of mankind - [except for Watchtower]

by Esse quam videri in

you may find this of interest.

how money and greed really work.. http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x25210y_the-biggest-scam-in-the-history-of-mankind-hidden-secrets_tech.

William Penwell

I think a bigger problem to the wealth gap in our society is our tax system and the handling of inherited wealth.

I can't agree more. We can't keep having more and more of the wealth filtered up to the top 1%. With the population expansion this planets resources will eventually not be able to handle the amount of people on this planet and very few people controlling the wealth, something has got to give. I know my parents lived through the 30's and knew what hard times were. They learned to save for everything and not rely on credit. If we ran our household fiances like the governments run theirs, we would be in serious financial trouble.

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Apostasy Trial on YouTube - Undercover spycam part 1

by RayPublisher in

for only the second time in internet history, a video recording of a secret jehovah's witness apostasy trial has been published online on the jwstruggle youtube channel.

follow isaac's story here:.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=se9rh6qux0o&feature=youtu.be.

William Penwell

Yes, as in virtually all JC's, they want you to start talking and expose yourself.
They never start out with: this is what we heard and who we heard it from.

I recall at my judicial hearing they came across as we are there to help you, so gullible me I opened up, confine in them and tell them everything. They then in their decision to DF me turn around my own words and used them against me. That is what really upset me and I called the one elder a f*ing AH. Reminds me a bit of good cop, bad cop. I remember after telling my boss what they did and he couldn't get over that this day and age that a religion actually "shuns people".

Begs the question - so how should we know when elders should be viewed just as men, and when not?

This reminds me of peoples arguments for giving guns to good guys to shoot the bad guys. Who are the good guy and who are the bad guys? The good guys wear the white hats I guess....

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First time they publicly admit this or not?

by TimDrake1914 in

i came across this on the newest wt study edition for 7/15/15 pg.

9 par.

14:"they remember when congregations had a congregation servant rather than a body of elders, when countries had a branch servant rather than a branch committee, and when direction was given by the president of the watch tower society rather than by a clearly established governing body of jehovahs witnesses.

William Penwell

I seemed to recall that was the reason they gave us when they went to a Governing Body in the 1970's.

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Apostasy Trial on YouTube - Undercover spycam part 1

by RayPublisher in

for only the second time in internet history, a video recording of a secret jehovah's witness apostasy trial has been published online on the jwstruggle youtube channel.

follow isaac's story here:.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=se9rh6qux0o&feature=youtu.be.

William Penwell

What's really interesting is that Isaac didn't bring up 1975 or 1874 first, but it was the elders who did! It shows they're thoroughly familiar with TTATT talking points.

I recall running into my ex brother in law a few years ago and he was the one that brought up about how the society made mistakes in the past but it would be so good to see you back in. I was shocked when he actually admitted there was some mistakes made. I guess they know that the same old tired arguments don't work with us older guys.